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FCNL REPORT:

Attorney General John Ashcroft testimony
before the House Judiciary Committee
June 5, 2003

Attorney General John Ashcroft foreshadowed introduction of portions of the Justice Department's "Patriot II" legislation in last week's testimony before the House Judiciary Committee. Stating that the nation overwhelmingly supports the USA PATRIOT Act and the Justice Department's efforts in the "war on terrorism," the Attorney General brushed aside concerns about post-September 11, 2001 erosion of constitutional liberties.

Overview

For the first time in over 18 months, the Attorney General appeared before the House Judiciary Committee for an oversight hearing. His testimony came amid growing calls from both Republicans and Democrats in Congress for more active congressional oversight of the Justice Department. The leadership of the House Judiciary Committee and the Justice Department have reached a tentative agreement for greater department oversight, and the Attorney General's testimony grew from those discussions.

The Attorney General's remarks acknowledging congressional requests for increased oversight were conciliatory, but the general tenor of his testimony was that of an unapologetic advocate. He emphasized the law enforcement mission of the Justice Department, with no mention of the department's broad national policy-making responsibilities. He emphatically stated many times that the Justice Department's actions were all within the law and the U.S. Constitution.
Observation: The Attorney General did not acknowledge that Justice Department actions were taken under Justice Department interpretation of federal law. He spoke as if the Administration were in charge of determining federal law, which, of course, has been the duty of the federal courts since the early 1800's.

The Attorney General repeatedly stated that criticism of Justice Department actions was based on misinformation or misunderstanding, and that the actions are absolutely necessary to control terrorism. He stated that the "war on terrorism" would have been impossible to conduct without enactment of the USA PATRIOT Act.
Observation: The Attorney General did not mention the widely published analysis, arising from the testimony of senior FBI staff, that the FBI had the information and tools that it needed to fight terrorism before September 11, 2001, but failed to analyze, interpret, and communicate the information and utilize the tools it had. Instead of seeking more power, the alternative would have been to revamp the FBI to better use the powers that it already had.

Concern about Justice Department policies cut across party lines. The House Judiciary Chair, Rep. Sensenbrenner (WI), stated that "The purpose of the PATRIOT Act is to secure our liberties and not undermine them. . . . My support for [the USA PATRIOT Act] is neither perpetual or unconditional." One committee member lamented the loss of civil liberties as unnecessarily extensive "collateral damage" in the war on terrorism. Another committee member introduced his comments by saying, "It appears that the American people feel that the government is intent on prying into every nook and cranny of people's private lives, while at the same time doing all it can to block access to government information that would inform the American people about what is being done in their name."

The committee's questions covered a wide range of topics, covered in full below. However, of utmost importance were the Attorney General's responses about two topics:

Expansion of USA PATRIOT Act powers

Although the Attorney General shrugged off the leaked draft legislation dubbed "Patriot II," he named three of its provisions that he asserted are necessary to fight terrorism: (1) expanded powers to hold suspected terrorists indefinitely before trials; (2) ability to impose the death penalty or life imprisonment for any terrorist act; and (3) expansion of criminal charges for those acting in "material support" of terrorist groups.
Observations: The Attorney General did not mention that the definition of "domestic terrorism" in the USA PATRIOT Act is so broad that the Administration has wide latitude in what it determines counts as "terrorism." The additional powers that the Attorney General wants are, therefore, even broader than they appear. In addition, he did not elaborate on the Justice Department's lack of coordination with Congress in the development of the terrorism-fighting provisions in the USA PATRIOT Act or in development of "Patriot II."

Denial of national concern about erosion of civil liberties in the post-9/11 era

The Attorney General brushed off numerous questions about widespread concern over erosion of civil liberties since the Administration declared "war on terror." On the contrary, he stated that there was "overwhelming support" for the USA PATRIOT Act across the country.
Observation: The Attorney General provided no basis for this statement.

Twice in his remarks, the Attorney General disparaged the Bill of Rights Defense Committee (BORDC) movement, claiming that it is based on misinformation and arguing that the country must discuss and dispel the "myths" being spread.
Observation: He did not attempt to name any specific inaccuracies or distortions.

Specific issues addressed by the House Judiciary Committee's questions:

1. Investigative powers: Electronic surveillance

Four different committee members raised the issue of surveillance of library and bookstore records. The Attorney General stated that the national uproar about library surveillance is based on misinformation, citing a newspaper article published in Connecticut that was subsequently withdrawn for inaccuracy. He said that libraries are "encased in protections." He compared the procedure for obtaining a grand jury warrant for library surveillance with that of obtaining a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant under the USA PATRIOT Act and opined that the latter was more difficult to obtain.
Observation: He did not follow-up with comparisons that would have defeated his premise: whether information outside the scope of the original warrant could be gleaned using a FISA warrant but not with a grand jury warrant, whether non-targeted individuals could be spied on under a FISA warrant but not under a grand jury warrant, or how the information from each could be used by federal authorities.

In response to a question about electronic data-mining, the Attorney General admitted that faulty data may be a problem to a broad-based system. He recognized the need for operational safeguards and security systems against unauthorized access. He advocated a policy of "minimization," i.e. having the FBI only obtain information "required for investigations." He flatly stated that the Justice Department would not be conducting data-mining on non-criminal suspects.
Observations: The Attorney General did not acknowledge that he was using terms defined so broadly by the USA PATRIOT Act and Justice Department policies that the terms would fit nearly any investigative situation. In addition, his remarks ignore the fact that data-mining by definition will reap information about law-abiding individuals and not just criminals or terrorists. It is generally understood that the federal authorities will determine the data profiles for criminals and terrorists after they have information about everyone.

2. Investigative powers: Change in FBI guidelines

The Attorney General acknowledged that he did not consult Congress before revision to the previous FBI operating guidelines (called the "Levy Guidelines," last revised in the mid-1970's during the Ford Administration after the Church Commission exposure of FBI abuses). The Attorney General stated that he had felt empowered to modify the guidelines without consultation because of the overwhelming congressional support for the USA PATRIOT Act. He explained that under the new guidelines, FBI agents may attend any public meeting, including religious services, political gatherings, and other constitutionally protected activities. The agents may not make surveillance records and must destroy all notes taken unless they uncover evidence of crime or criminal planning. Committee members expressed their discomfort with law enforcement investigation instituted without any evidence or even suspicion of criminal activity. However, the Attorney General repeatedly asserted that the Justice Department has taken a proactive position against crime, rather than waiting for crime to occur.
Observations:
The Attorney General responded to these questions as though prior to September 11, 2001, the Justice Department had not engaged in extensive, systematic crime-prevention efforts. Moreover, he did not justify his underlying premise: that in order to prevent crime, the Justice Department must abridge the civil liberties of the people. This premise can be refuted factually (civil liberties do not have to be sacrificed for safety), as well as foundationally (security without freedom is not worth the trade-off).]

3. Other investigative powers

The Attorney General praised and supported enhancement of a national neighborhood watch program concerning "unfamiliar, suspicious, or not normal" people.
Observation: He did not mention the Homeland Security Act provision prohibiting implementation of the Terrorist Information and Prevention System (TIPS), and did not explain how this new federally supported "neighborhood watch" program is different enough from the TIPS program to survive the previous clear expression of congressional disapproval of citizen-on-citizen snooping and snitching.

The Attorney General defended the use of "sneak and peek" searches, the clandestine physical and virtual searches permitted under the USA PATRIOT Act. He insisted that in every case, notification had or would eventually be given to the target that a search had been conducted.
Observation: The Attorney General did not mention that the USA PATRIOT Act does not limit the number of notification extensions for "sneak and peek" searches. Even if the Justice Department planned to eventually notify all targets that they have been spied on, the Act gives Justice Department authorities discretion for indefinite delay of notification, a procedure that many argue is a violation of Constitutional due process.

4. Use of USA PATRIOT Act provisions for non-terrorist crimes

The Attorney General reported that the Justice Department has negotiated criminal plea bargains from more than 15 individuals who are cooperating with the government about terrorism investigations in exchange for the imposition of lesser sentences than those for terrorism charges. He stated that prosecutors bring charges they are confident can sustain conviction, even if the charges are non-terrorism charges. He considers a guilty plea for a non-terrorist charge under such circumstances to be evidence of success in the "war on terrorism," even if the charge is not terrorism-related.
Observations: Individuals who are threatened with a range of crimes look to the sanctions for those crimes when contemplating plea bargains. If the defendant is facing life imprisonment on one hand or a sentence of a few years on the other, he or she can avoid the risk of conviction of the more serious charge by pleading guilty to the lesser charge. Because each criminal offense has a different list of elements and the prosecutor must prove each element beyond a reasonable doubt, conviction of a charge not related to terrorism is emphatically NOT evidence of guilt of terrorist activity. Moreover, the Attorney General did not provide a definition of the "war on terrorism," much less criteria for winning that "war."

5. Immigrant relations: Detention of immigrants during the fall and winter 2001-2002

[Background: The Attorney General's testimony followed the June 2, 2003, release of an internal Justice Department report about significant problems with the treatment of 762 illegal immigrants detained during the September 11, 2001, investigation. The report was issued by Justice Department Inspector General Glenn A. Fine. The office of the Inspector General is an independent, internal investigatory unit within the Justice Department. The report found that federal authorities made little effort to distinguish real terrorist suspects from those who became ensnared by chance in the investigation. The report found that the detainees were jailed for extended periods of time, many for months, often without formal charge or access to lawyers, and that some were subjected to verbal and physical abuse, before they were cleared of terrorist ties and deported or released.

The Attorney General acknowledged that, in the end, none of the 762 detainees included in the Inspector General's report were charged with terrorism. All detainees were charged with violation of INS regulations. The Attorney General gave anecdotal evidence of a handful of detainees who had ties to other terrorism suspects. He stated that the "inconvenience of a few individuals is outweighed by safety concerns." He repeatedly referred to the general statistic that 85% of those facing deportation who are released from custody on bond do not report for deportation, and he stated that the Justice Department would not take that risk during the investigation of the September 11, 2001 attacks. The Attorney General said that it is Justice Department policy "for which we do not apologize" to detain those illegally in this country for as long as it takes to clear them of terrorism links before deportation (called the "no bond" policy).
Observation: The Attorney General offered no explanation of the continuing use of the "no bond" policy after the emergency situation had subsided, nor did he offer any link between common immigration procedural violations and terrorism. He did not address the implication that the crackdown on immigrants following the attacks of September 11, 2001, was unrelated to those attacks or the "war on terrorism," but was, rather, in furtherance of Justice Department immigration philosophy and policy.

In response to a specific question, the Attorney General stated that he did not have current plans to appoint an independent investigator to look into possible criminal conduct in association with the allegations of abuse of immigrant detainees. He testified that of 18 civil rights complaints that had been brought, Justice Department investigation had found that 14 of the cases had insufficient evidence to press criminal charges. He stated several times, "We do not stand for abuse." Observation: In this testimony, the Attorney General stated Justice Department policy. However, he did not mention that the Justice Department turned a deaf ear on repeated calls for investigation and pleas for assistance from detainees' families, friends and attorneys while this abuse was occurring. Nor did he offer assurance that the abuse described in the Inspector General's report has, in fact, ceased.

The Attorney General noted Administration efforts to curb discrimination against Muslims.
Observation:
He did not address the inconsistency between the Administration's public profiling of Muslims and immigrants from the Middle East and South Asia in immigration and investigation policies, while at the same time giving speeches against private acts of racial or religious discrimination between individuals.

6. Use of local law enforcement officers for enforcement of federal law

The Attorney General spoke enthusiastically about the use of local law enforcement officers for enforcement of federal law, particularly immigration law.
Observation: He did not respond to a committee member's question about whether this Justice Department policy undermined local police department efforts for effective and helpful relationships with local immigrant communities.

7. Use of "enemy combatant" status

The Attorney General asserted that conferring "enemy combatant" status on an individual is within the power of the President as commander-in-chief under Article II powers. As authority, he cited the U.S. Supreme Court's Ex parte Quirin, a WWII saboteur case. The Attorney General claimed that determination of "enemy combatant" status is a military decision, not a civil or criminal decision, and that if the President has a reasonable basis for the decision, the status is not subject to review by the courts. One member of the committee noted that "enemy combatant" status should be given to an individual only under a public standard which had been previously determined by Congress. The Attorney General attempted to reassure the committee by saying that President Bush would remove the classification as to any individual if the President thought that the classification had been imposed in error.
Observations: The Attorney General did not discuss the disagreement among legal scholars about whether the Quirin case applies to the current circumstances. He did not respond to the assertion that a matter of this importance should be a matter of public policy developed by the Administration working with the Legislature, rather than developed in secret and applied without judicial review or legislative oversight. He did not acknowledge that the issue involved here is the constitutionality of the Administration seizing unfettered discretion to designate an individual as an "enemy combatant," with its consequent loss of all due process protections for the individual so designated.

8. Monitoring of attorney-client conversations

The Attorney General unconditionally endorsed the procedure of monitoring designated attorney-prisoner conversations so that attorneys do not become the unwitting messengers of clients who are part of terrorist groups. He stated that there were firewalls that would prevent non-emergency use of the information gleaned by this monitoring, noting that the monitoring team was separated from the prosecution team.
Observation: The Attorney General did not delve into the constraints on this procedure guaranteed by the Sixth Amendment right to counsel.

Minutia:

The session lasted for five hours, including a half-hour lunch break. Alternating between political parties, each member of the committee was allowed five minutes to voice concerns and pose questions to the Attorney General, who responded to each inquiry in turn, without time limit. The Attorney General was accompanied by about a dozen staff, many with four-inch thick briefing notebooks organized by topic, together with charts summarizing the anticipated concerns of the various committee members. As the questions were being asked, the aides ripped pages out of the briefing notebooks and one aide set the relevant pages on the table next to the Attorney General.
Observations: Legislators need more than five minute increments to exercise responsible oversight of the numerous Justice Department policies, actions and plans, and implementation of the USA PATRIOT Act. This hearing should be just the beginning of vigorous public congressional oversight of Justice Department activities. Moreover, the Attorney General's repeated failure to support his generalized, conclusory remarks cannot be attributed to lack of preparation or to lack of assistance during the hearing.

House Judiciary Committee:

Sensenbrenner (5th - WI), Chair; Conyers (14th - MI), Ranking Member; Hyde (6th - IL); Berman (28th - CA); Coble (6th - NC); Boucher (9th - VA); Smith (21th - TX); Nadler (8th - NY); Gallegly (24th - CA); Scott (3rd - VA); Goodlatte (6th - VA); Watt (12th - NC); Chabot (1st - OH); Lofgren (16th - CA); Jenkins (1st - TN); Jackson-Lee (18th - TX); Cannon (3rd - UT); Waters (35th - CA); Bachus (6th - AL); Meehan (5th - MA); Hostettler (8th - IN); Delahunt (10th - MA); Green (8th - WI) Wexler (19th - FL); Keller (8th - FL); Baldwin (2nd - WI); Hart (4th - PA); Weiner (9th - NY); Flake (6th - AZ); Schiff (29th - CA); Pence (6th - IN); Linda Sánchez (39th - CA); Forbes (4th - VA); King (5th - IA); Carter (31st - TX); Feeney (24th - FL); Blackburn (7th - TN).

This report was prepared by Friends Committee on National Legislation Civil Liberties and Human Rights Program staff in attendance at the hearing.

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